KL> In fact, God allows even corrupt governments to exist (for a time) and uses them as instruments of judgment.KH> Make your choice. The teaching of the apostle Paul is that any government, corrupt or not, can exist by God and is used by God for his good purposes.KL> It is presumptuous to give specific examples because God is "behind the scenes" as such, fulfilling his plans through the existence and perhaps overthrow of governments.KH> Again, choose from any government in history that has met its demise.JQ> Although it is not my responsibility to defend your argument. If you say that God overthrows a specific government you must cite specific examples. The very fact that you make this statement only suggests that you already have the evidence in hand. But again, why kind of criteria would you use? What would be your methodology for identifying the causes of a nation's governance failure? If you don't have an established method for evaluating why nations/governments fail or collapse, then all you should say is "God did it" without offering any evidence. What do you have...