There is evidence in both Lord of the Flies and A Separate Peace that shows the ferocity of man. In Lord of the Flies, savagery is found when the choir boys and most of the bigwigs break away from Ralph's authority and form their own tribe. In A Separate Peace, savagery is found in nameless characters throughout Leper's war experience: he feels such a need to escape the evil and savagery in war that he takes the risk and actually does. In both of these novels, the archetype and motif of ferocity is present in young boys, ultimately causing the fall and degeneration of man. There are signs and symbols in both novels that show the beginning of barbarism and brutality. In Lord of the Flies, the boys portray inhuman characteristics by painting their faces. Jack, being the archetypal savage, paints his face with the symbolic colors of red and black. "For example, when Jack first paints his face to his satisfaction, he suddenly becomes a new and savage person. "He began to dance and his laughter became a bloodthirsty growl." (Al-Saidi, "Savagery and the Heart of Darkness in William Golding's Lord of the Flies”). Jack's transformation into a wild character results in his animalistic behavior, Gene's fall into an evil state results in his change of character. Ultimately he acts as an archetype of brutality and jealousy. the contemptuous force of his tone transformed the word into a curse” (Knowles) showing that once peaceful words have turned into barbaric and savage words. Overall, the boy's barbaric actions have led to the degeneration of man and the archetypal character of the savage. There are leaders of savagery in both Lord of the Flies and A Separate Peace, in both books these leaders cause c. ..... middle of paper ...... out of the tree” (Knowles) Gene's ferocity was always there, but he became present in his darkest form when he pushed Finny. Overall, the darkest moments of savagery in both novels are evident as each boy experiences his first fall into evil. In both novels, A Separate Peace and Lord of the Flies, there are many signs that show the ferocity and darkness of man. Both Jack and Gene experience falling into a barbaric state of mind, which is the beginning of their savage takeover. Likewise, Jack and Gene both represent primitive leaders in each novel. Furthermore, the two boys experience a dark point of ferocity, in which their animalistic behavior prevails over all pure instincts. All in all, both Lord of the Flies and A Peace Separate portray their characters as once-innocent boys who then experience falling into a completely savage state..